Baha'i and Judaism JewU 147 Rabbi Jonathan Ginsburg
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rjhgins, As a Baha'i, I'd like to commend you on your wonderful clip! As you've gathered there are a couple of points we'd humbly correct (re: Baha'u'llah definitely NOT being final prophet or superior etc.) but on the whole I for one am very impressed by your genuineness and the respect and lov
e you show, especially your emphasis on common ground. It's refreshing to come across such an attitude, sadly lacking thesedays - so there's another point of agreement we have: recognising the
importance of emphasising common ground! I would just like to add, in the same spirit of friendliness that you display, that Baha'is hold Judaism (and of course Jews) in EXTREMELY high regard. This is perhaps *one* reason why our Founder (Baha'u'llah) was tortured and imprisoned for forty years,
and why to this day we're being persecuted (killed, tortured, denied basic human rights) by fanatically Muslim regimes. Our world centre in the Holy Land doesn't help either! :)
I *perhaps* get a sense (may be wrong!) you might be saying "we Jews were here first with many of these teachings". Well, generally speaking, you're right! In fact that's the point: the claim being that there is only one religion - the religion of G-d, with different chapters teaching the same th
ing but of course depending on the time and the place putting different emphasis in different areas and perhaps explaining things slightly differently and putting into place social laws more
relevant to the time/place, each Messenger being the same spirit, reflecting the one Creator. Thus Baha'u'llah emphatically states... the blessed Moses was no less than Christ, Muhammad or Baha'u'llah so Baha'is regard Moses as highly as we do Baha'u'llah and thus have the utmost love for Him an
d His faith. In fact Baha'u'llah (of Jewish descent Himself) went further, claiming a huge proportion of philosophical thought down the ages have their roots in Judaism! One more point:
I get the (possibly mistaken?) feeling that you think that by following "yet another Messenger" we may in some way belittle the station of His Holiness Moses. Well, to be a follower of Baha'u'llah one MUST accept the other Messengers (Moses, Christ, Muhammad, Zoroaster etc). So let's take Christi
ans for example; this intially poses a problem for them as many regard Moses as being nowhere near as great as Christ. Now, the Baha'i Faith being the world's fastest growing religion %-wise (C
Christian Science Monitor) with Christians being amongst those accepting Baha'u'llah in droves, this effectively means that there is a growing cohort of Christians who, thanks to Baha'u'llah, regard Moses as being just as great as Christ (and Baha'u'llah)... thus under the banner of Baha'u'llah th
e status of Moses and His Book has been raised and glorified for the first time since the advent of Moses Himself. Similarly so with Muslims etc... We are not in any way taking over the glorious
Message of Moses, in fact we are exalting and protecting it, and acknowledging its greatness every step of the way. This could be why a significant proportion of the early Baha'i believers were Jews (with whole villages of Jews becoming Baha'is overnight in Persia and in most cases sealing their
faith with their lives). In summary, thanks for an excellent video and for demonstrating such respect and fairnmindedness. I for one would humbly like to reassure you that the Baha'is have
nothing but the utmost love and respect for Judaism, striving to raising its status and, though you *may* take issue with this (not meant offensively sorry!), kind of regard ourselves as Jews (religiously, not culturally) in that we love and respect Moses and His Teachings. Baha'u'llah didn't com
e to destroy or the take the place of... He came to fulfill and glorify a lot of what, as you say, was already there. You're a credit to Rabbis, Jews and to clergy every, thanks again!
I returned from a Baha'i Pilgrimage to Israel a few months ago and was surrounded by an orthodox Jewish family who had flown from Toronto to Jerusalem for their son's Bar Mitzvah. They were a delight.
Also, lesser assemblies could be 100% female, but none are, while plenty are 100% male.